Thank you for your helpful overview of this key distinction! It has made me think we perhaps need another word that’s sort of adjacent to trustability which speaks to the situational dynamics in which trust arises (or not) as a thing that is even relevant. In so many situations, trust goes unexamined altogether - it is simply a background condition of ordinary action. To ponder trust can be an odd thing to do sometimes! We mostly engage in questions of trust when we are given reason to doubt trustworthiness. But even in situations where it would be weird to consider one’s trust, trust can be rendered relevant and actionable by simply asking a person whether they are trusting. So I wonder what a term might be that could make a powerful triad here: trustability, trustworthiness, and… trustivity? (A sort of portmanteau of trust and cognitive?)
I’m interested in your thoughts: Do you think this is useful? Or do you think this is sufficiently addressed by trustability?
This is excellent. And it applies so well to family and other close relationships such as exemplified by the chocolate example. I often think about this with my sons and my partner. I view my part er as trustworthy and having trustability in aspects that are most central to relationship. However, when he says he will do a task today, I recognize this may be aspirational. Once upon a time it might not happen at all. Now, I expect it to happen but maybe not today, or it may be renegotiated. I hold different aspects differently based on my experience as well as feeling.
Thank you for your kind words and for reading my work. I find it interesting that trust relates to both conceptual and concrete issues. As you explained, many everyday issues and conversations relate to it. You would enjoy Jonathan Tallant's writing as well. He's probably a more entertaining writer than I am!
Thanks for this. It is good to read this because it is doing the straight work I trust would be happening... indicated at the top of my own post this week on trust [snap] and then just dive into an intuition about effort = value= (like) trust.
Thank you for getting me to reflect in the morning.
One of the aspects of trust I think you are missing is the expection I need to have that what or who I am about to trust is trustworthy. If I expect someone tell me the truth at a later time, they are trustworthy, if not, not. I don't know if anyone meets someone new or enters into a new sitution blank when it comes to trusting, but it is a major componenet on deciding trustworthiness.
I am not a professional academic, so apoligies if there is spmething I missed.
You're absolutely right. This topic is widely discussed in specialized literature, and it will likely be included in our paper. Philosophers refer to it as "reliance" or "reliability."
(You don't need to be an academic philosopher to have ideas. It's not a job, but a commitment.)
Thank you for your helpful overview of this key distinction! It has made me think we perhaps need another word that’s sort of adjacent to trustability which speaks to the situational dynamics in which trust arises (or not) as a thing that is even relevant. In so many situations, trust goes unexamined altogether - it is simply a background condition of ordinary action. To ponder trust can be an odd thing to do sometimes! We mostly engage in questions of trust when we are given reason to doubt trustworthiness. But even in situations where it would be weird to consider one’s trust, trust can be rendered relevant and actionable by simply asking a person whether they are trusting. So I wonder what a term might be that could make a powerful triad here: trustability, trustworthiness, and… trustivity? (A sort of portmanteau of trust and cognitive?)
I’m interested in your thoughts: Do you think this is useful? Or do you think this is sufficiently addressed by trustability?
This is excellent. And it applies so well to family and other close relationships such as exemplified by the chocolate example. I often think about this with my sons and my partner. I view my part er as trustworthy and having trustability in aspects that are most central to relationship. However, when he says he will do a task today, I recognize this may be aspirational. Once upon a time it might not happen at all. Now, I expect it to happen but maybe not today, or it may be renegotiated. I hold different aspects differently based on my experience as well as feeling.
Thank you for your kind words and for reading my work. I find it interesting that trust relates to both conceptual and concrete issues. As you explained, many everyday issues and conversations relate to it. You would enjoy Jonathan Tallant's writing as well. He's probably a more entertaining writer than I am!
Thanks for this. It is good to read this because it is doing the straight work I trust would be happening... indicated at the top of my own post this week on trust [snap] and then just dive into an intuition about effort = value= (like) trust.
Trust is not a coin.
https://whyweshould.substack.com/p/trust-an-entry-in-the-taphonomy-of
Thank you 🙏
Thank you for getting me to reflect in the morning.
One of the aspects of trust I think you are missing is the expection I need to have that what or who I am about to trust is trustworthy. If I expect someone tell me the truth at a later time, they are trustworthy, if not, not. I don't know if anyone meets someone new or enters into a new sitution blank when it comes to trusting, but it is a major componenet on deciding trustworthiness.
I am not a professional academic, so apoligies if there is spmething I missed.
You're absolutely right. This topic is widely discussed in specialized literature, and it will likely be included in our paper. Philosophers refer to it as "reliance" or "reliability."
(You don't need to be an academic philosopher to have ideas. It's not a job, but a commitment.)